Posts by breakfast of champions

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Picture of Let

by Tahoe in

my 'still in' family is passing this pic around facebook like proud parents.

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breakfast of champions

I love how the die-hard JWs spell his name wrong, but the apostates get it right.

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Kingdom Hall Renovation Question: Who Pays?

by breakfast of champions in

so last night it was announced at the local hall that the ldc had decided against building a new hall, and that the existing hall would be "renovated.

the prospect of a new hall has been dangled before this congregation for at least 10 years now.

in fact, the congregation had already purchased property, had approval from the rbc for a new hall.

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STEPHANELALIBERTE - Good question! Quite a story. . . .

So, right after this guy dies, I'm talking to a "brother" neighbor of mine who actually goes to a different cong. He tells me that he was out in service and ran into a "worldly" friend of the deceased brother who is PISSED (angry, not drunk) at the local congregation. Why?

Evidently this deceased brother originally wanted his $250K to go to THE SOCIETY. Before his death, though, he was visited by two elders from the hall who had been working on the new kingdom hall project. According to this "worldly" friend, the elders pressured the elderly brother to leave the money to the local congregation rather than the society. Their reasoning was that if he left the money to the society, the congregation wouldn't see a DIME of it. However, if he left it to the cong, they would be able to use the $$ for the new hall. Evidently, the elderly bro was rather peeved about being "strongarmed" by the elders and complained to his worldly pal.

However he did end up leaving the money to the local cong. The donation was announced to the congregation with quite a flourish after the brother's death. The elder making the announcement (one of the ones who pressured the elderly bro) described how for in order for the new KH project to go forward, we needed just about $250k in cash and -- VOILA! --- Jehovah provided by killing off this elderly brother, and we're moving ahead with site work.

As to how I know the money was taken by the society under the new LDC arrangement: My BIL is an elder in the neighboring cong and he says that's exactly what happened. It's GONE. Of course no special announcement was made about that. . . . ..

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Kingdom Hall Renovation Question: Who Pays?

by breakfast of champions in

so last night it was announced at the local hall that the ldc had decided against building a new hall, and that the existing hall would be "renovated.

the prospect of a new hall has been dangled before this congregation for at least 10 years now.

in fact, the congregation had already purchased property, had approval from the rbc for a new hall.

breakfast of champions

Thanks for the letter and chart WIFI.

It seems like this congregation falls into the "congregation should be given the opportunity to care for the expenses first" class.

Just some background on the congregation: Although located in a fairly well-off area, pretty much everyone in the cong. is broke (big surprise). Also, about a year before the LDC arrangement was instituted, an elderly brother passed away leaving $250K to the congregation. At the time, this was viewed as a "blessing from Jehovah" because it was just the amount needed to get the new KH project started. I think few if any of "the friends" know that all of that money went to the society under the "new arrangement."

Here's my prediction as to what will happen: The congregation will be told that they are responsible for the entire cost of the project and that the $250K they thought they had in the bank is GONE. There will be no way this congregation will be able to ante up 100s of thousands of dollars required for the project. The LDC will then proclaim that "Jehovah's will" has been revealed by the congregations lack of interest in the project. The congregations using the hall will be disbanded and sent to nearby halls, and the hall and property will be sold off.

I'll keep you all informed on what actually happens. . . .

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If anybody tells you that the end is so close

by pepperheart in

ask them why the gb has spent millions of people hours buiding the new bethels in new york and london rather than them working door to door or on the trolleys.

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You know. . . . I'm not really hearing this so much any more. Yeah, some are salivating over Trump/King of the North/King of the South bullshit, but I more often hear people accepting that they might actually grow old and die "in this system."

For instance: I was talking with a young witness woman (in her 40s) the other day. She and her husband are remodeling their home and were considering materials for the kitchen. She related to me that her JW father/elder advised her not to use a certain material "since it only lasts 20 or 30 years" and that "time goes fast." Her response to him was "You think I'm going to be around to care in 30 years?"

So first it was interesting for the JW dad to even think you have to worry about how long your new kitchen will last with armageddon "right around the corner." Secondly, it was really interesting to hear someone in their 40s already resigned to the idea they would grow old and die rather than waltz right into "paradise" without ever facing death. These kind of attitudes were unheard of -- even kind of considered apostate -- just 10 + years ago.

People are still "in" but their attitudes have changed dramatically.

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Kingdom Hall Renovation Question: Who Pays?

by breakfast of champions in

so last night it was announced at the local hall that the ldc had decided against building a new hall, and that the existing hall would be "renovated.

the prospect of a new hall has been dangled before this congregation for at least 10 years now.

in fact, the congregation had already purchased property, had approval from the rbc for a new hall.

breakfast of champions

So last night it was announced at the local hall that the LDC had decided against building a new hall, and that the existing hall would be "renovated."

The prospect of a new hall has been dangled before this congregation for at least 10 years now. In fact, the congregation had already purchased property, had approval from the RBC for a new hall. . . .. and then everything changed (the RBC was dissolved and the LDC was instituted).

My wife says there was an audible *GASP* when this was announced --- everyone had been expecting a new KH. Evidently, there was quite some disappointment that all this will amount to is merely the renovation of a small, outdated building from the 60s.

My question is: Who foots the bill for the renovation? Does the LDC pay for this? Or is the congregation expected to ante up?

I remember seeing somewhere on this board that some congregation (I'm assuming in the USA) was supposed to pay at least half of the cost of renovation "up front" under the new LDC arrangement. Unfortunately I can't find the post I was thinking of . .. . .

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RC 2017

by wifibandit in

due to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).

the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .

as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.

breakfast of champions

"Don't Give Up" it is. . . my wife just got back from the meeting where they announced it.

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Greetings and would like some advice about a potentially fun idea

by towerwatcher in

jw
friends

hello fellow apostates!

my first post and a long time lurker here.

i would like to thank all of you for the existence of this board as this has been instrumental for me in leaving the place i once knew as "the truth".

breakfast of champions

These look really well done. Especially like the "Youth" book.

You should name your tee-shirt company "Cult-Tee."

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A Taxonomy of WT Presidents/GB

by breakfast of champions in

[this is what happens when the semester ends.

idle hands.

so i was thinking of how you would categorize the presidents of the wt, and i came up with this:.

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SBF - You're right! Completely forgot about Henschel.

Henschel == FORGETTABLY FORGETTABLE (or something like that)

As for Adams and Larson, I did not forget them. Just didn't include them because of the non-anointed thing.

LOVE UNI - Sorry to dash your hopes! Personally, I think all of these guys should get stuffed.

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The Great Crowd!

by A Believer in

notice the 144000 can be counted and they all come from israel.. 9 after this i saw, and look!

a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues,*+ standing before the throne and before the lamb, dressed in white robes;+ and there were palm branches in their hands.+ .

this great crowd, no man was able to number, and they come from every nation!

breakfast of champions

Is that a booger hanging out of your NAOS?

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A Taxonomy of WT Presidents/GB

by breakfast of champions in

[this is what happens when the semester ends.

idle hands.

so i was thinking of how you would categorize the presidents of the wt, and i came up with this:.

breakfast of champions

Good point SMIDDY.

So I might add in:

Conley == FORGETTABLE

and revise Sanderson:

Sanderson == CRAZY/FORGETTABLE